 Borla Xs Pro Vs Magnaflow Xl |
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 Sep 3 2007, 03:21 PM
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Senior Member  Group: Members Posts: 112 Joined: 26-August 07 Member No.: 14,062  |
So what is the best sounding muffler for the XR. Im looking for a low to stock sounding idle and a performance groul during acceleration. I will be taking my car to an exhaust shop and getting a 2.25" exhaust from the resonator back. Please let me know what you guys think. Im not looking for a great deal of power gain just better than stock. thanks once agian to all that reply
Borla canister is only 14in Magnaflow is 18in will the length make a change anything? I have a 05 matrix XR AWD K&N pannel filter and soon to have an exhaust |
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Sep 3 2007, 03:32 PM
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Your Mom loves my Supercharger  Group: Moderators Posts: 9,563 Joined: 26-May 03 From: Toronto, Canada Member No.: 2,663 |
Borla won't fall apart like the magnaflow will
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Sep 3 2007, 03:34 PM
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Guru Group: Members Posts: 3,442 Joined: 21-December 03 From: San Francisco, CA Member No.: 4,027 |
QUOTE (Pourmeaguinness @ Sep 3 2007, 02:32 PM)  Borla won't fall apart like the magnaflow will My Magnaflow hasn't fell apart yet. |
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Sep 3 2007, 03:42 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 751 Joined: 3-October 06 From: DA 805,THOUSAND OAKS, SOCAL. Member No.: 10,732 2004 TOYOTA MATRIX Xr |
I think you've posted like 5 topics 'bout the same thing man.
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Sep 3 2007, 03:43 PM
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Guru Group: Members Posts: 3,442 Joined: 21-December 03 From: San Francisco, CA Member No.: 4,027 |
QUOTE (05matrixXRAWD @ Sep 3 2007, 02:21 PM) So what is the best sounding muffler for the XR. Im looking for a low to stock sounding idle and a performance groul during acceleration. I will be taking my car to an exhaust shop and getting a 2.25" exhaust from the resonator back. Please let me know what you guys think. Im not looking for a great deal of power gain just better than stock. thanks once agian to all that reply Borla canister is only 14in Magnaflow is 18in will the length make a change anything? I have a 05 matrix XR AWD K&N pannel filter and soon to have an exhaust The shorter the muffler, the louder it will be. Which muffer from Borla are you looking at? Canister-type muffler may not be for you if noise level is a concern. |
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Sep 3 2007, 03:48 PM
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Fat guy in a little car. Group: Members Posts: 7,247 Joined: 6-June 03 From: KY Member No.: 2,757 2010 Red Yaris 4 Door LB |
QUOTE (Pourmeaguinness @ Sep 3 2007, 05:32 PM) Borla won't fall apart like the magnaflow will This man speaks the truth. (IMG:http://matrixowners.com/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) |
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Sep 3 2007, 05:35 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 112 Joined: 26-August 07 Member No.: 14,062 |
thanks to all, the best choice is a magnaflow XL center/offset muffler(18in) resonator back at 2.25" piping. This will give me the best of both worlds. a noticable differance over stock gain in power with minimal torque loss. The magnaflow has very low in cabin droning were as the borla seems to drone then rasp.
Exhaust,CAI, Denso Iridium plugs, synthetic oil change are basically all I will be doing to my car. Thanks agian to all that helped me with my questions QUOTE (xA/Billiam @ Sep 3 2007, 04:48 PM) QUOTE (Pourmeaguinness @ Sep 3 2007, 05:32 PM) Borla won't fall apart like the magnaflow will This man speaks the truth. (IMG:http://matrixowners.com/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) |
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 Sep 4 2007, 02:36 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 35 Joined: 12-March 07 From: Sacramento, CA Member No.: 12,835 2003 Toyota Matrix XRS |
QUOTE (madbikes @ Sep 3 2007, 02:34 PM) QUOTE (Pourmeaguinness @ Sep 3 2007, 02:32 PM) Borla won't fall apart like the magnaflow will My Magnaflow hasn't fell apart yet. Neither has mine! |
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Sep 4 2007, 02:53 PM
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Guru Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-January 05 From: NOR*CAL Member No.: 6,702 2003 Toyota Matrix, XRS |
QUOTE (BasickOne @ Sep 4 2007, 02:36 PM) QUOTE (madbikes @ Sep 3 2007, 02:34 PM) QUOTE (Pourmeaguinness @ Sep 3 2007, 02:32 PM) Borla won't fall apart like the magnaflow will My Magnaflow hasn't fell apart yet. Neither has mine! x3 (IMG:http://matrixowners.com/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) |
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Sep 4 2007, 03:02 PM
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Your Mom loves my Supercharger Group: Moderators Posts: 9,563 Joined: 26-May 03 From: Toronto, Canada Member No.: 2,663 |
Well, maybe only 1 in 5 falls apart in california.
But they don't survive well in places with different seasons. |
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Sep 5 2007, 02:05 PM
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Guru Group: Members Posts: 1,726 Joined: 17-May 05 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 7,553 2003 Toyota Matrix XRS |
LOL i thought it was just the 1st gen Magnaflow exhausts that had the resonator rattle. I think they've fixed the issue since then. @ least that's what i remember hearing.
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Sep 5 2007, 03:39 PM
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Guru Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-January 05 From: NOR*CAL Member No.: 6,702 2003 Toyota Matrix, XRS |
QUOTE (Pourmeaguinness @ Sep 4 2007, 03:02 PM) Well, maybe only 1 in 5 falls apart in california. But they don't survive well in places with different seasons. that could be true. We get rain but never snows were I live. No salt on roads...etc. I believe what your saying about corrosion and rust, I used to live in Chicago. |
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Sep 5 2007, 05:17 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 753 Joined: 16-February 05 Member No.: 6,819 |
Yeah my magnaflow is still runnin smooth. (IMG:http://matrixowners.com/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Sep 5 2007, 06:24 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 112 Joined: 26-August 07 Member No.: 14,062 |
magnaflow has a lifetime warranty on all there stainless mufflers.
QUOTE (TXMatrix2NR @ Sep 5 2007, 06:17 PM) Yeah my magnaflow is still runnin smooth. (IMG:http://matrixowners.com/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Sep 5 2007, 08:51 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 20-August 07 From: Langley,BC Member No.: 14,020 2006 Toyota Matrix |
QUOTE (05matrixXRAWD @ Sep 3 2007, 04:35 PM) thanks to all, the best choice is a magnaflow XL center/offset muffler(18in) resonator back at 2.25" piping. This will give me the best of both worlds. a noticable differance over stock gain in power with minimal torque loss. The magnaflow has very low in cabin droning were as the borla seems to drone then rasp. Exhaust,CAI, Denso Iridium plugs, synthetic oil change are basically all I will be doing to my car. Thanks agian to all that helped me with my questions QUOTE (xA/Billiam @ Sep 3 2007, 04:48 PM) QUOTE (Pourmeaguinness @ Sep 3 2007, 05:32 PM) Borla won't fall apart like the magnaflow will This man speaks the truth. (IMG:http://matrixowners.com/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) I have the Borla and I don't find it drones much at all mind you I have the undercoating which may cut the noise down. Good Luck with your upgrades. |
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Sep 5 2007, 09:42 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 649 Joined: 2-April 06 Member No.: 9,568 2008 Mazda Mazdaspeed 3 GT |
I thought the magnaflow had just the resognator that the baffling broke in? Not the muffler itself....but I could be wrong. I plan on getting a magnaflow cat back, heard good things.
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Sep 5 2007, 09:47 PM
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Your Mom loves my Supercharger Group: Moderators Posts: 9,563 Joined: 26-May 03 From: Toronto, Canada Member No.: 2,663 |
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I hear good things This post has been edited by Pourmeaguinness: Sep 5 2007, 09:48 PM |
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Sep 6 2007, 06:33 AM
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Guru Group: Members Posts: 1,398 Joined: 12-July 05 Member No.: 8,009 |
QUOTE (Pourmeaguinness @ Sep 4 2007, 05:02 PM) Well, maybe only 1 in 5 falls apart in california. But they don't survive well in places with different seasons. seriously man stop spreading your bs you bought just the resonator a cheap one at that and it fell apart. i have had my magnaflow cat back on my car for 3 years now including winters and have had no problems at all. and the rattling issue has been fixed. It was only on the first gen ones. pmag maybe you should tell people the whole story next time instead of your bit answers. |
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Sep 6 2007, 06:46 AM
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Your Mom loves my Supercharger Group: Moderators Posts: 9,563 Joined: 26-May 03 From: Toronto, Canada Member No.: 2,663 |
I have the same exact resonator as the one in the catback system.
I guess the whole cat back system is 'a cheap one at that'. A company producing a complete bolt up aftermarket exhaust system should have no issues. Period. Especially welds. And I drove around for almost a year with a cel caused by a quality magnaflow cat, but I didn't get into that discussion here. The Original poster here didn't ask about a magnaflow cat back, he asked about Borla XS vs Magnaflow XL. I gave him my 2cents about my experience with my quality magnaflow parts, in general. You have a problem with that, take it to pm. You have a problem with me about the way I post? Thats rich coming from you. I'm not looking to get dragged into one of your Lime vs. Anybody Else online battles, because I find them boring and childish. I'm done in this thread. Magnaflow = poop, click for my thread *edited to add my thread about my experience with my quality magnaflow resonator, still rattling to this day.. lifetime warranty my huh? This post has been edited by Pourmeaguinness: Sep 6 2007, 06:54 AM |
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Sep 9 2007, 04:23 PM
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Fat guy in a little car. Group: Members Posts: 7,247 Joined: 6-June 03 From: KY Member No.: 2,757 2010 Red Yaris 4 Door LB |
I'll back PMAG on this one. I'm not really saying they are junk. But I've seen a couple of local ones that rusted pretty heavily after a couple of winters....which winters here are fairly mild. Of course they both had the rattling resonators as well. I do think they sound good though.
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